I noticed that someone on acne.org mentioned some kind of scar reduction cream named Kitoscell. I don't know if it's anything but looks like it's based on decorin and inhibition of transform growth factor beta 1. So it might be somewhat similar to Juvista except that it's a topical cream meant to be used without surgical revision?
It's currently only available in Mexico but some people on mexican internet boards claim that it works. There are some pictures in pdf-files at Kitoscell. What do you think? :)
From the resarch I have done, as well as speaking with a colleague it only works on raised scars. It does seem to improve the scars, but it also expensive. Be careful dealing with Mexican pharmacutical companies. I know many people who have sent funds and never received their products.
Ok, thank you for information.
Kitoscell actually offered me a possibility to send this product to me directly, as there are no international distributors at this time. They said it also works on older scar, although slower. I would use it on slightly raised scar. Do you think it could actually reduce existing scar tissue during long time usage, as they claim? Based on their pdf-file, it's actually based on Pirfenidone (5-Methyl-1-phenyl-2-(1H)-pyridone).
Can you send me a copy of the pdf via PM? I'd like to review it.
I mean those two pdf files found at Kitoscell. They are only documents I have found about this product and they are in Spanish. I tried to read them using google translator.
Looks like it contains only pirfenidone as it's active indegrient.
Forma Farmacéutica y Formulación:
Cada 100 gramos contiene:
5-metil-1-fenil-2-[1H]-piridona 8 gr.
Excipiente,c.b.p. 100 gr.
I noticed that pirfenidone has been studied as a drug for lung disease idiopathic pulmonary fibrosis (IPS), which as far as I understood is caused by scarring (fibrosis) inside lungs. Looks like there have also been some studies on liver fibrosis.
This is a translation of first mail they sent to me:
"Thank you for your interest KitosCell fortunately we can say that what you saw in the forums is a reflection of what actually KitosCell tested. For its mechanism of action, also has a positive effect on scars that have long evolution as the fundamental basis of these scars is that there is fibrosis, and fibrosis KitosCell eliminates this course cases of scars that the resolution does not oldest as fast as in newer scars, but even in old scars is the beginning of the answer in a short time (usually within the first month). We've had patients with scars over 30 years of evolution with encouraging results."
I would be wary of this product, unless you are using it for raised scars. One of my colleagues used it and it did not work at all, however, it was very expensive.
The translation, while understandable seems a bit exaggerated. I was told it is a copper based product.
Please send me the pdfs via PM if you can, as I am fluent in Spanish.
I cannot find a way to send files inside this forum, but I sent you direct web links to those files.
I'm actually using copper peptide products, but I don't think Kitoscell is based on copper.
Are you sure that the product your colleague was using was Kitoscell and not some copper peptide product from Procyte or something like that?
I'll review the pdf files and get back to you.
My colleague did use Kitoscell.
Are the copper based products working for you?
They are doing something, but I'm also using mild hydroxy acid and microdermabrasion cloth for manual exfoliation. I have been doing this for little over month, so it's way too early to say anything yet. I'm planning to introduce slightly stronger chemical peels/exfoliators.
You are correct. It is not a copper based product. It seems very well developed and the results are quite dramatic in many of the photos. According to the pdf files, the product can be used on hypertrophic and keloid scars, however, I have been told otherwise by someone who used the product personally. Most successes with this product have been from scarring due to burns.
If you want to try it, obviously, the choice is yours. There is really not enough unbiased literature and reviews available at this time. That is why I would wait for more info to be available. When the most info you can find about a product is solely from the company itself, one must ask themselves if the product is very new, if little research has been done, or why is such a minimal amount of info available.
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