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Old 03-15-2011, 11:16 PM   #21
 
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Do you think dr Vladimir Grigoryants would be a good choice?
NO. Stick with Soiliman and Litner. Pm me k?


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Old 03-24-2011, 05:27 PM   #22
 
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Litner and Solieman are very into self promotion and "creating an experience" for the patients. Poor post-op care as well. I would avoid them at all costs.
I have seen mixed results from Hilinski.

Please PM me for recommendations.
When I was researching before my rhino, I came across these doctors and was sickened by their mass-advertising ploys. They saturate the market with their own self-promotion, and I stayed far away from them for that reason. Anyone who has to promote like that obviously isn't as good as they say they are, otherwise their patient's word-of-mouth advertising would be enough.

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Old 04-27-2011, 02:13 AM   #23
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One thing that I want to add to this thread is that I went to Dr. Hell(inski) for my revision, to revise a nose that was extremely pinched and pollybeaked (an alike case to Mike's) and this surgeon pumped my nose so full of grafts that I now look like I have a tomatoe on my face. To make matters worse, there are severe grooves, deteriortations, dents, and buckling also going on with the portions of cartilage not covered with grafts, and my pollybeak is even worse!

I have to wear bandages or an extreme skin putty just to go out in public without stares and comments from my peers, and I have lost years of my life without being able to socially interact or attract other people in my dating life, and I have lost hundreds of thousands of dollars in my acting, modeling, and media careers. I have wasted 5 years of my teenage/young adult life on monster surgeons.

If it was down to deciding between Dr. H and Dr. S&L, I would go to S&L hands down, despite their recent obvious marketing ploy. A marketing ploy does not always mean a botched surgery (these are economic times after all), but multiple botched surgeries (Dr. H) sure does. Beyond my case, this surgeon has had multiple fraud cases where he's purposely botched patients to re-operate on them up to FIVE times (never for free, $6,000 a touch-up) just to earn more money. MULTIPLE cases of his has been like this.

So far, though, S&L have had extreme signs of marketing, but NO botched surgeries. If they had botched surgeries, they'd be online for sure. But as always, botched surgery can happen when you least expect it (there were no bad reviews before my horrific H experience, I was the first public botch story from his practice), so always keep on the look-out and as I always say, if a surgeon starts doing extreme marketing, chances are he just botched a patient and is trying to get the lead foot in the door before the patient has a chance to say their side of the story.

Personally, as it is, I recommend Le and Boahene (both in Baltimore, Maryland, which is good that they're near each other, travel-wise), and hardly anyone else. Good luck to everyone!


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Old 04-27-2011, 05:15 PM   #24
 
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If it was down to deciding between Dr. H and Dr. S&L, I would go to S&L hands down, despite their recent obvious marketing ploy.
I'm with you on that one. I'm more concerned with the final outcome and not their marketing techniques. I emailed S&L and received a nice reply from Dr. S., but after speaking with them they were a little pricey for me. Not horrible by any means (just 1-2 grand out of my price range) and 100% worth it if it the results were what I was hoping for...I just can't afford it otherwise I'd be in there for a consult. But their gallery looks great and their credentials seem to check out (though their medical licenses are still pretty new by my standards---I'm willing to overlook that for a great result!). Very disappointed that I can't go talk to them.

I had a consult set up with Hilinski, but after taking a look again at his gallery, decided he's not the surgeon for me. I wasn't impressed. I've heard good things about Vladamir Grigoryan. He's reasonably priced, but not on the Board of Facial Plastic Surgeons, from what I can see. I have to say though, I'm really impressed with his gallery, and from my research am learning that this is an art, and am looking for the artist that suits my tastes.

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So far I have not heard of any bad outcomes from Sol & Lit. And by all means I m not trying to promote them. I felt that they were knowledgeable when they approached me and knew my concerns without having me pinpointing the concerns.

I m waiting to see the the pics of Amandapie on this forum (in 3 more months no?) who said that she is their patient.

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Old 04-28-2011, 02:33 AM   #26
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RSkull - are you the guy who has the websites showing the overgrafting that Dr. N did (scamming you out of thousands of dollars just to harvest and add grafts that you didn't need?)

If so, I didn't mean to imply that my case was worse than yours (I've seen the website and I hate Dr. N's guts for what he did to this patient, it was just like what Dr. H did to me), the only difference between the two cases however is the Dr. N patient seems to have even-toned, still-healthy skin (even after the botched surgery process) and I believe this will help his next revision go more smoothely and will help surgeons diagnose his nasal deformities in a better way; I 100% support him getting another revision! With my nose however, a big difference lies in the skin tone - my skin is very inflamed, red, dented, and generally infection-prone looking, and so far, it's caused many surgeons (including Dr. Le) to be "confused" on what can be done for my nose, and more because of my skin type, finding the next surgical step for me has been a hell of a process.

But I think that the first solution for me is probably undergoing a laser or treatment for my nose that helps bring the skin tone to a healthier light, and then I think my nose will probably be an easier case to diagnose!

And about Dr. H's galleries - even as an ex-patient, I still personally love his galleries and I think his successful surgeries are some of the most revolutional surgeries in the country. Especally for what my revision needed - a strong, square tip, a reconstruction of ethnic and proportional character, ect ect. This surgeon has given my exact goal to patients who've been in extreme car wrecks and injuries! However, he did not give this goal to me at all (he wouldn't put my surgery in his galleries if his life depended on it), and my nose looks like the majority of the "before" photos on website.

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Old 04-28-2011, 11:58 AM   #27
 
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Hi TRC,

With regards to your skin problems. If you drink at least 2 litres of water / day and eat good food you should nt have probs with the skin. Eat at least 5-6 portions of fruit nd veg /day. Eat also oily fish 2-3 times per week and include fat soluble vitamins in your diet -Vitamin A, D, E, K. Avoid junk food. I will explain: Water cleanses the internal system especially the liver and kidneys. If the liver nd kidneys are clean, then you ll have more elastic and healthier skin. Fruit nd veg contain vitamins and fibre. Fibre helps in sweeping away waste products in your system and this also helps in having a clear healthy skin. Vit A D E K helps in giving moisture to skin, therefore making the skin more elastic-that oil is healthy because it is not oil which clogs the pores, etc...like junk food may cause. There s too much to explain so better stop here, but if you have a question re the topic, I ll ans you.



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Old 04-29-2011, 08:05 AM   #28
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That's some very good advice! I do notice that my nose is even more red, swollen, and sickly looking when I eat salty or junk foods - the problem is that I'm so depressed that I've lost every will to care about what I eat and I'm doing good just to focus on earning a paycheck to make way for my next revision. A big problem with my nose is my last surgeon, in an attempt to "cover up" his mistakes, inserted temporary filler (or possibly permenant filler, who knows what this surgeon was capable of lying about) to fill out many of the extreme dents. With filler, it "sucks up" moisture and inflamation, causing the nose to swell to extreme proportions. I even had a veterinarian tell me other day that if any body part is extremely permenantly red after a surgery or injection, it's most likely because the skin was damaged by surgical techniques (or that the material inside the nose became infected - grafts or filler) and that it's a sign that the blood cells are working over-time in attempt to repair that body part.

Sadly, my blood cells aren't doing a good job =[.

So I'll ask: are there any vitamins that help substitute the daily intake of things like fish, vegetables, meats, ect ect that help regulate the body close to what a porportioned diet would? The honest truth is that I stay so depressed or busy that I'm lucky just to pick up a hamburger from McDonalds and a microwave dinner at night (I don't really eat a lot, only two small meals a day) and you if could recommend any vitamins that substitute an equal diet or combat salt/junk food intakes, I'd love to try them!

Also, I'm 2+ years post-op from surgery, and about 2 years post-op from the filler (had filler at 6 months post-revision). Yet my nose looks like I just got the cast off on most days, so huge from these grafts, so red from inflamation, so dented from what my primary doctor did to me (and what the revision doctor did not fix), and even from the side profile, my nose is just problematic (though being a side profile, it's nothing as extreme), and from all around, I feel like I need a vast revision - but I also want to tackle my skin and any fixable problems before surgery, so your advice is really something I'm going to try and apply!

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When you eat salty food including Mc D foods your body keeps the salt and salt attracts water so you ll have some water retention. Most prob your nose cells 'absorb' water and they cant expand due to the fillers?not sure about this. The best cure is will power to cut down on certain food and get used to a new balanced diet-I know that it s difficult to change eating habits especially when your bombarded by a mass of advertising and stuff promoting fast food products. I can understand that you are depressed after your rhino and at times it s hard to stand back on your feet-I started smoking again after my poor rhino job and since then did nt quit. Yes,agressive doctors may damage the skin as the skin is delicate espectially when it is surgically operated on.

" and that it's a sign that the blood cells are working over-time in attempt to repair that body part. "-yes, what happens is that cells work to destroy the foreign object. If they do nt accept the foreign object they try to find a way of rejecting it out of the body.

There is nothing better than real food rather than supliments but if one cant have proper food than it s better to have suppliments. No suppliments cant combat salt 'and fat'-junk food. (although there are suppliments which can help the body not absorb fat but these also flushes away the fat soluble vitamins so you dnt need them.) Simply dont add table salt and cook fresh food rather than pre-packed microwave stuff and fast food products. Re other nutrient intake, you can find a whole range of nutrient products in pharmacies. Focus mostly on Vitamins as these boost the immune system. You can also find fish oil in capsules to get your Omega stuff. But honestly, proper food is better than suppliments. Also, drink plenty of water since this flushes away toxic stuff and cleanses your kidneys and liver, and a clean liver means clearer skin. If you cant eat fruit and veggies have a bowl of cerial (with fibre) every day and take vitamin suppliments since fruit/vg are rich sources of vit and fibre.

Once back on your feet find a proper revisionist and remove the fillers. I m sure that you deserve to be fulfilled.......Take Care

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