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littleturtle 02-22-2010 01:12 AM

how accurate can plastic surgeons be? (pics)
 
i have a very unsymmetrical face. from my forhead, to my cheeks, midface, and even jaw. i don't know exactly what caused this, maybe genetics? the left side of my face looks sunked in as opposed to the right side which has a fuller look. i hope to add implants to my left jaw and midface, to make it match the right side of my face. i'm not sure what to do about my cheeks though. i was hoping people could make suggestions on them.

i know my face will never be completely asymmetrical, but how close could they match my left side to my right?

http://i46.tinypic.com/16m6pus.jpg

my life would be so much easier if i could walk in my public with my head up high without having to worry about someone staring at me.. and yes i'm ugly and suffering from acne. no need to poke fun at me... :(

robyne00 02-22-2010 03:48 PM

First things first, if I were you, I would address your skin condition. There are amazing products and medications that can help you to look better and feel better about yourself. Clear skin is an instantaneous confidence booster.

Secondly, I'm not sure if its the pics, but a real profile view of each side would have been a better way for members on the forum to address the assymetrical portions of your face. Maybe you could post another photo?

A good surgeon could make your face look quite symmetrical. Professionally speaking, it sounds like you have issues with your appearance, and maybe you should speak to a mental health professional, instead of attempting to get the quick surgical fix (or fixes). I know many individuals who have had extensive PS and are just as miserable, if not more than they were pre-op.

littleturtle 02-22-2010 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by robyne00 (Post 4960)
First things first, if I were you, I would address your skin condition. There are amazing products and medications that can help you to look better and feel better about yourself. Clear skin is an instantaneous confidence booster.

Secondly, I'm not sure if its the pics, but a real profile view of each side would have been a better way for members on the forum to address the assymetrical portions of your face. Maybe you could post another photo?

A good surgeon could make your face look quite symmetrical. Professionally speaking, it sounds like you have issues with your appearance, and maybe you should speak to a mental health professional, instead of attempting to get the quick surgical fix (or fixes). I know many individuals who have had extensive PS and are just as miserable, if not more than they were pre-op.

i am working on the skin condition..

a side profile doesn't really show the assymetrical portions of my face that well.. i'll try to post more pics later.

yes i'm not going to lie, i do have issues with my appearance. i grew up fat and ugly, and at one point had no chin at all. the only thing i had going for me was being good at sports so i've never really had problems making friends. i used to have severe social anxiety back in high school obviously caused by my insecurities. it was hard for me to just leave the house. i can't even talk to girls properly without being uncomfortable around them.. and please don't say confidence is key. we all judge people by their appearance and don't treat everybody the same, believe me.. i'm not trying to look like brad pitt, just want my left side to match my right.

robyne00 02-22-2010 06:40 PM

Glad to hear you're working on the acne. If I may ask, what is your regimen? What is the root of your skin problem?

I am not saying confidence is the key, but it definitely helps. Having a clear complexion especially after battling blemishes is a confidence builder. That is what I am saying. Professionally speaking, you are very defensive. I do not know how others have treated you, but I am trying to help you. I am not saying you have to look like a celeb. If you feel that you need to have a visage as such, that is a good road to Body Dysmorphic Disorder.

Yes, people do judge others based upon appearance. We cannot help it. We have eyes. We are humans. We are visual creatures (men more than women as per validated research). People can be negative, insecure about themselves, thusly lashing out at others to try to "boost themselves" (doesn't work), superficial, and downright mean. The most externally gorgeous individual might not be worth a damn, as they might have zero personality or be a nasty individual with no redeeming qualities. But that is why we need to take the time to learn who other people really are. If someone is so shallow and/or mean and they cannot look beyond your appearance, THEY are the one who has issues.

You definitely need to speak to someone about your inability to leave the house. Professionally speaking, start with a psychologist. You will probably be referred to a psychiatrist as well.

Stop worrying about other people around you (i.e.: the girls you cannot talk to, if people are negative about your appearance, etc.). Improve yourself. Things will get better.

You sound like you are set on surgery, which is fine. You must do an appropriate amount of research, visit many surgeons, talk to others who have had similar surgeries and /or used surgeons you are interested in etc. Like I said before plastic surgery does not necessarily equal happiness. You need to find out why you keep calling yourself ugly, cannot leave your house, etc. Either way you look at your situation, you need to help yourself.

littleturtle 02-22-2010 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by robyne00 (Post 4962)
Glad to hear you're working on the acne. If I may ask, what is your regimen? What is the root of your skin problem?

I am not saying confidence is the key, but it definitely helps. Having a clear complexion especially after battling blemishes is a confidence builder. That is what I am saying. Professionally speaking, you are very defensive. I do not know how others have treated you, but I am trying to help you. I am not saying you have to look like a celeb. If you feel that you need to have a visage as such, that is a good road to Body Dysmorphic Disorder.

Yes, people do judge others based upon appearance. We cannot help it. We have eyes. We are humans. We are visual creatures (men more than women as per validated research). People can be negative, insecure about themselves, thusly lashing out at others to try to "boost themselves" (doesn't work), superficial, and downright mean. The most externally gorgeous individual might not be worth a damn, as they might have zero personality or be a nasty individual with no redeeming qualities. But that is why we need to take the time to learn who other people really are. If someone is so shallow and/or mean and they cannot look beyond your appearance, THEY are the one who has issues.

You definitely need to speak to someone about your inability to leave the house. Professionally speaking, start with a psychologist. You will probably be referred to a psychiatrist as well.

Stop worrying about other people around you (i.e.: the girls you cannot talk to, if people are negative about your appearance, etc.). Improve yourself. Things will get better.

You sound like you are set on surgery, which is fine. You must do an appropriate amount of research, visit many surgeons, talk to others who have had similar surgeries and /or used surgeons you are interested in etc. Like I said before plastic surgery does not necessarily equal happiness. You need to find out why you keep calling yourself ugly, cannot leave your house, etc. Either way you look at your situation, you need to help yourself.

thanks for the reply.. i miiight have been a tad defensive.

i don't have those social anxieties anymore, atleast not as much. there was a point though where it was really tough for me to leave the house. being around people was a nightmare.. i have had this discussion with my mom and she is already aware of my plans, although i doubt she understands just how insecure i am about the way i look. i am currently doing things in improving myself..

i just want to get to the point where i can feel comfortable around people and not have to worry about catching someone staring at me. you can only imagine how much it sucks..

robyne00 02-22-2010 08:25 PM

So what you are telling me, is you are attempting to heal a mental health issue (or issues) by altering your visage? Professionally, that is what is seems to me. Have you received any help for your mental health isues, either now or in the past?

littleturtle 02-22-2010 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by robyne00 (Post 4970)
So what you are telling me, is you are attempting to heal a mental health issue (or issues) by altering your visage? Professionally, that is what is seems to me. Have you received any help for your mental health isues, either now or in the past?

mental health issues? lol i'm not crazy.. just depressed at the way my life has gone due to the disadvantages i've been dealt with..

i don't think you understand at all..

robyne00 02-23-2010 08:56 AM

I do understand. Your defensive nature and denial of issues shows my strength of understanding. Depression IS a mental health issue. If you want to focus on the purely surgical aspects of what you think would help your situation that's fine too. I just thought you might want to address the real issue(s). Again, I am trying to help you, regardless of how others have and/or do treat you. Are you looking towards fillers? Cheek implants? What kind of research have you done?

littleturtle 02-25-2010 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by la_angel (Post 4989)
Well, Robyne is the mental health professional on this forum, and she is doing a great job addressing those issues with you, so I will not comment on that (I have no background in mental health and I trust Robyne's advice for this).

Now about that asymmetry, I honestly cannot see the problems you mentioned in the pictures posted. What exactly is asymmetrical about your cheeks (malar) and mid-face (submalar) areas? I have studied your pictures carefully, how each part lines up, and I do not see anything abnormal. Please explain the asymmetries you see further.

http://i49.tinypic.com/1zeuyyq.jpg

you notice how the right side (i flipped it) looks a lot fuller than the left? and check out the jaw line, the right side sticks out more compare to the left side which is a lot weaker and barely noticeable.

i prefer the right side of my face a whole lot more.. :(

http://i46.tinypic.com/2ebzebs.jpg

^
added more pics for comparing.. look at the picture in the middle, you can clearly see the asymmetery in my facial structure. i'm tilting my head up in these pics to show the jawlines more so my face isn't actually as define (if you would even consider it that) in real life. i got a chubby face.. and in the right pic, what do you call that area i circled between the cheeks and the ear? i've also noticed that area is a bit larger than the other sides..

is there some kinda disorder for having this much asymmetry in your face? just curious..

amityroberts 02-25-2010 03:16 AM

Everbody has asymmetrical facial features...some more than others. Some celebs will only have pics shot using their "good side" of their face (Ie: Paris Hilton, Drama from Entourage...). Don't beat yourself up over imperfections. I don't think they offer reconstructive jaw bone sx? Honestly, the left side of your face looks better...You need to take care of the things you can control right now: wax eyebrows, clear complexion, softer haircut, smile. You have nice, full lips and strong features. I can relate to your feelings of obsession though...And I agree w/ Robyne, you do need to take care of the inner self too. Maybe be treated for OCD? How old are you, and what are you using for your skin/hormones...?
BTW...appearance does make the 1'st impression, but really it's about attitude and personality. Unfortunately, I was terribly shy growing up. It's hard to train yourself to be open, positive and have a more "attractive" personality. But, it's necessary. Also, start thinking about giving and doing for other people and don't over-obsess about yourself all the time. You'll feel better about yourself, and people will appreciate you for who you are and your efforts...not your face. BTW...do you self-mutilate (ie:pick at your face repeatedly?)
I am no professional though, so I can't "professionally speak", just giving some feed-back:)


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